Posts by Nature2

In my opinion changing the lvl 100 helms makes no sense after 2 years. You say that "it was never meant for pvm" but melee attack works the same way with average damage, so it kinda was meant for pvm.

If you wanted to change the helms to their "real purpose" you could have done it since 2 years ago, without players investing resources into an item that will eventually be "erased".

I believe the change in lvl 100 helms comes on the background of the new sash system, with the idea to balance damage in pvm because sash system boosts it already. This can be balanced simply by making the sash system exclusively pvp.

Why boost pvm bonus with sash and nerf it with helms? What's the point of this?

Adding damage bonus somewhere and substracting elsewhere is not the way to go if it involves damaging players' time and money spent on this server.

If you do it on systems that were created before your arrival, maybe this is justified but in this case the lvl 100 helms were implemented by you and you had all the time in the world to "fix" them if you truly wanted to.

If the idea behind these changes is to make players spend more time and money on items, then it's again wrong. The proper way is to add new features on item mall/ milleage mall and decrease drop rates at certain items that are available via item mall. For example, you could adjust the drop rates of changers and other items that lost value in order to fix market gaps rather than changing items that people already made on a specific purpose.

With these changes, you only make people frustrated the same way you would be frustrated if someone would take away your 1 month work over an update.

You should also take into consideration that players are of different ages, social and cultural background and sometimes overreact not because they have something against you but rather because they feel you defy them.

I think it's your responsability to be wiser than us and to find solutions with us to come to a compromise and not be so harsh when players criticize. It's your right to delete offensive comments but try not to generalize and try to look from the player's perspective aswell. After all, our goals should not interfere with each other.

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Hey there,

before i state anything regarding this, do us and yourself a favor and wait untill you actually saw the S-Skills.

Telling me that Remove debuff fails often at over 60% already sounds quite exaggerated, telling me that it fails often at the S-Rank 87% sounds even more unbelieveable.

I saw the S-skills already, remove still fails even with 87%, with 60% it fails quite often like i said, also damage of S remove is still low even with low amount of magic res. Anyway, since 2 minute immunity will stay, you still find it normal to be the weakest skill in terms of damage ?

Quote from Shadow

Remove magic immunity disappear upon death or teleport

This move is faded and doesn't change anything. I want to make a final call cos' i know you are open to suggestions so i hope you will take into consideration my opinion.

1) two minute remove immunity is already a lot because remove effect can be cured by healer, debuffing fails quite often and it's hard for a player to remove multiple targets. I also want to point out to those who say "body warrior is useless because of remover" the fact that weapon sura is in the same situation.

2) remove of magic makes too low damage - it has lower magic attack than the weakest skill of black magic sura - it's unnatural because weapon sura skills are already weak and miss quite often

I strongly believe one of these 2 features should be reconsidered because it's too much and already i see many players selling items from weapon sura.

I suggest to either increase power of remove of magic until it makes a decent damage (at least 2/3 of twister), or to change its type to melee skill, which i believe is more natural (weapon sura is supposed to be melee, not magic). Basically, only sura res is supposed work against remove of magic, not magic res since anyone can get 73% magic res which results in ridiculous damage.

I believe one of these 2 features should be reconsidered to give weapon sura a chance to be relevant in pvp again. Thanks.

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What kind of scenario are you actually picturing in your head?

To us your skirmish in town 1 are meaningless and actually a pain to watch. A bunch of kids who insult each other, abuse mounts, remove from the safe zone till some key characters are removed and then more insults.

We do not care about this kind of pvp. What we care is 1vs1 budokan, so unless you are a healer you cannot heal, and national war. Good luck bringing a level 30 healer and do whatever honorless crap method you wanna do.

The remove immunity disappear if you die or if you warp. I know it doesn't do it now, because we forgot to move it, but we will after we check that the update is bug free.

As for the cure, we can simply put a level limit on the aliments cure, such as that if you are too low, you cannot cure poison or remove from someone who is much higher.

Fact is, you guys never suggest these things, after all if all the honorless crap are removed, what other topics would you use to denigrate and insults your opponents?

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So you are admiting that the point of this update was to get rid of weapon sura in budokan xd, what i can't figure out is the reason.

Until now there was a balance between sura, ninja, and mage. Now weapon sura became completely useless in pvp and also 90% of the pvm. The only reason anyone would make a weapon sura is for meley run and i find this hilarious.

You gave +15% skill dmg to mages, +35% vs monster to assassin, attack speed bonus for warrior and finally completely nerf sura. It looks very bad in my opinion.

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the concept of remove is very broken to begin with.

I do agree that you can work around the immunity at the beginning of a fight(but it becomes tedious very fast, so w/e).

People can finally ACTUALLY play their class and not 2/3 of it.

Good ridance.

Remove was this way since metin2 was created, your opinion is biased because you play body warrior.

Nerfing remove of magic completely, very nice.

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Can you elaborate what the difference between "bug using" and "bug abusing" is? I'd love to hear an example to show where the difference is.

You could use a dictionary or just google, "abusing" means to use excessively, consciously.

@Zakar can you post the full video with all duels since you lost 6-2 ? Or nowadays this is how it's done ? Posting just where you win ?

Happy Birthday Boss

Did you record it with Windows Photo Viewer ?

Quote from Elspeth

Hey there,

considering that you are taking a Screenshot near midnight Servertime, which is even Later in the night for the entire Eastern european and Asian community wouldn't really set a high bar i suppose. I'm not going to deny that there arent a lot of PvP players but thats definitely not because of the things you named.

The maps look like this at any hour of the day. The last raid was right after this update, 6 months ago.

It can't be denied that the server never looked so empty. The reasons are clear, if you accept it or not.

What was supposed to be a boost for attracting new players into pvp it has done exactly the opposite because without those 8 pvp bonuses, there is no way anyone lvl 35-90 would resist more than a few seconds.

On high level, it's even worse. There is no balance when archers make 3k hits in ~100 res. There is no balance when mages play with hits instead of skills.

Also, rolling items is a joke. It's 10 times harder than it was before update. You literaly need hundreds of changers to get bonuses that barely can be called decent ( if you can call 3/5 decent ).

At the moment, changers are close to 40kk. Please try to make a newcomer even consider building pvp under these conditions.

I am ready to make a bet that at this moment there isn't one single player that has finished building pvp gears entirely.

The only way to keep this server alive after this update was to bring new updates with new features that bring interest to people but the priority was to focus on opening server2 which is doomed to failure aswell. Now it's probably too late to save something.

Quote from Elspeth

Hey there

I'm not entirely sure how balancing PvP and making it easier to get decent stats would disturb any new player, maybe you can enlighten me.

I wrote that in my opinion none of these actually happened.

Go in map1 and show me those newcomers that built pvp. There is 0 pvp, no one is interested to play pvp anymore. There are 3 or 4 players in map1, half of them afk.

This is how map1 looks like nowadays :

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The update you quoted has nothing to do with new players, wtf are you talking about xD?

Did you even read it ?

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Dear Players,

with today's maintenance we have removed from the 5 custom bonus the strong vs class and resist vs class. This change is not only the first step to balance the pvp, as the damage gets weird with big numbers, but was also mainly done to help newcomers build better gear in resonable time as we removed a total of 8 rollable bonus. It will not only help building fast pvm equip, but also pvp.

The bonus are being replaced with the best available bonus, by taking consideration of the ones already present on the items, is not random and it was done to not displease anybody.

We are aware that the damage in pvp will be different from today on, but we will balance it in the next patches after listening few feedbacks from the players.

Thanks Metin2 SG Team

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This server is now officially dead. The newcomers were not able to build better gear, the damage is weirder than ever and the safe zone is slowly becoming empty from shops. Only 2 shots was needed to kill it, this update and the 2nd server.

It's sad that something which was looking like the best metin2 server ever built died suddenly.

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4-5 Easter Metins in an entire map is really bad....if there are 3 players farming that map then each will kill 3 metins in one hour.

This is the first time i try this event and i'm already disappointed after one hour.

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With today's maintenance the server will receive the following changes:

• Some of the PVP Resistances in the game are a bit less effective now, to balance even more the damage output.
• The Formula of the bonus "Chances to get double experience" only granted 25% experience, it is now raised to 100%.
• The Formula of the bonus "Chances to get double drop" was not working on certain kind of drops. Now it emulates entirely the thief gloves effect.
• The Healers inside the Erebus Run won't refill the HP of the boss entirely if left alive for too long.
• Doubled the chances to drop items with 1 and also 2 rarity bonus.

Thanks Metin2 SG Team

Can you be more explicit about which resistances are changed and how much ? Also which are increased.

The damage output seems lower than before, if you lowered some res you must've raised others. Few details please.

Boring to collect 20 types of eggs....we want the old classic drop of boxes like the Christmas but no one wants to listen us...

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yes nice video gzz next time when u want post video please post full video Panic For u want make one next video beter a make 1vs 1 pvp video and post forum pm me in game and fight 1vs 1....

If add 5 more mins it means 15 more "revive here" for pety like in NW when pety offline yellows start with -50 points

Funny vid before fixing the pierce formula update.....was like one day fighting without armors and i enjoyed it