Posts by Elspeth

I am not entirely sure what you are trying to say, PrincePersia, but wether or not you hit the Eggs, monsters will always spawn.

The eggs spawn monsters just like metins, the run itself spawns mosnters every 45 Seconds if you do not kill them.

Quote from PrincePersia

meybe shadowe or tary coom and teset which normall items idk this normall all update if new have same problam hope fix too

I did the Tests with a player char that was level 105 with his Equipment and managed to beat the first floor completely on my own, having trouble on the Eggs but i never had this many monsters spawn.

What you will need to do is learn to form a proper party, your party had 3 Assassins, 1 Mage, 1 Sura, 1 Warrior - How do you expect to tank high level runs with 3 Assassins and nobody that can Tank stuff?

How do you expect to finish a run that requires strategic methods if you just facetank?

There's only this many monsters because you do not clear them and tried to facetank them.

Thats not one eggs monsters, that happens because you do not kill the monsters and try to tank all at once.

Every 45 Seconds it spawns another 45 Monsters, regardless of the fact that you killed them or not.

As announced on Discord, they are ingame but still have to be added to the item mall, which will take some time.

They will be accessable without the need of another reboot as soon as they are added to the Item mall though.

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Can you update the official DSS guide ([SYSTEM] Dragon Stone Alchemy) to reflect the latest updates?

Will be done in the following days, but the System remains the same.

Mythic DSS are obtained just like any other DSS and upgraded like any other DSS.

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well is there anything else you can do with a crap superclass sapphire besides upgrading? there won't be anything done to that right?

As of now, there is nothing planed. The Switchers only work for Mythic, not for lower grade DSS

Feel free to use Super Class DSS to upgrade them, but it is not needed. Minors are perfectly fine.

Quote from ALmoSIQaR

i have question what about super class crap ?

we can change it or we will start from beginning in new dss .

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The changers are exclusively for Mythic DSS, the clarity grade of the DSS doesnt matter as long as it is Mythical.

However, you can not change Legendary or below.

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He does have a vaild argument there, for a DSS-focused dungeon it might seem a bit light on the DSS-related drops. But at the same time you can't make the boxes too strong either.

I guess these items can be at least added as a mob drop.

No he doesn't, I said the focus of the dungeon is mythic dss and it's changers, I never said the focus is to put all dss related items into the run. Nor did i ever claim its a dss focused dungeon. For some reason people of your guild tend to put word's into my mouth or only read half of what I write it seems.

The only thing that has to be in the run is the dss changer the rest is completely optional and is a bonus in order to keep the changer valuable as one of them will be tradeable while the other will not.

You also do not drop mythic dss while I d

Said that it's a part of the runs focus.

What does that mean?

That a focus doesn't automatically mean everything has to be dropable. Just that one thing is in the center of attention and should probably be the main attraction.

For short:

Ochao - level 115 armors, pvp equipment and all upgrade items for higher level gear

Meley - Mythic Dss changers, PvP belts and Red Dragon Horns and Scales which yet have their useage to be revealed.

Yamachon - Flame Keystone

Nemere - Legendary DSS and Ice grails + Master horse

Erebos - Fire shoes and Spirit Blessing

Just slapping everything in every run is a horrible game design

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Then why put unrelated items into the box? why not put lower dragon stone cors into the chest, since alchemy is the focus? Or maybe these so called dragon beans, which are needed to upgrade the dss. Or, and hear me out on this one, the dragon stone releaser, which is also a important item now that we will change all of our dss. Not that any of this should be in the box, but you might want to think over your argument there. Why put completely unrelated items into a box of a run, when that box is suppose to be the main drop? Or am I missing your point here?

There are plenty of dss related drops to keep the worth of the box lower. And ofc you can always change the % to get good items from the box.

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Discussing with you is and has always been completely pointless since you do not even have arguments.

Boxes always had random Items that doesnt mean they get the Items that make another run relevant.

In case you want to repeat yourself more often, i'd suggest you to talk to this Page

https://wiki.metin2sg.com/index.php?title=Boxes

As for you, DonSaudi

An IP Block like this is very Important to keep the value of the Items in tact and have the Market stay stable, if we do not add it the items will just crash within a month and be entirely worthless plus everyone will have perfect superclass mythic DSS very fast, so no matter how much you dislike this block it is crucial. I do understand why you dislike it and if i was in your position, i would dislike it aswell but, as i said, unfortunately, it is crucial.

It doesnt Nail anything since the items are all gained in the same area.

Ochao, Erebos, Enchanted Forest.

Meleys Lair is something completely different with a completely different focus, Mythic DSS and their Changers.

Quote from SilvesterKING

Add Moonstone to the Chest.

Moonstones are needed for items dropped in Ochao so you get Moonstones in Ochao.

Quote from jureczek

What about pvp belts from box? Before we needed craft them from blood stones which drop from hell boxes with few % of chance, now can we get them right from the box?

With a fairly low chance, but it makes PvP much more accessible.

If we want new players to join and especially if you want to have some opponents in PvP, we need to make it accessible. Having a pvp belt at the cost of 30 Won for a single try of crafting it which can fail and having no alternative to get them is not really accessible.

When i tested the chests, in average, i got about 2-3 pvp belts out of 200 Chests. They arent going to lose all their value but this will give you an alternative to obtain them.

When i thought about what the chests could include, i did some market research aswell and saw that there were only like 6-7 Blood stones for 3 Won each and not a single pvp belt on the market.

Pink dragon beans also werent on the market atall.

Thats one of the reasons why one of the Chests has the Belts as theme and the other one has upgrading materials as theme.

You can choose which one you want, if you don't like one of the chests, choose the other one.

Ofcourse you are free to suggest your Ideas but keep in mind that you have to consider a lot of things such as long term market changes for example or generally just think about the future of the server.

Adding Mythic DSS to the run as reward for example would just kill the point of adding mythic dss as a whole since it is intended to give you something to do and give more stuff you can work on, if we just add them and gift them to you at the same time, wheres the point of adding them in the first place?

bombardieru We didnt decide where to obtain the Pass yet.

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I heard, that this run will be much harder than most. Also it will require do farm "key-fragments" via completing hell and ice run. If that is the case I do not understand the "ip-Block" rule here. If it is hard to enter and finish the run why not let people enter with multiple accounts. If it takes me 2h to collect the key for 1 char, I will need 2x the time to get the 2nd, so why not 2x the reward? If there is a long cooldown in the run this question can be ignored.

Of course I dont have the full picture regarding if and how hard the run will be, since this was talked about in the discord and that information is exclusive to discord. It would be nice if the information and questions there would also get postet here, since this is the main thread related to this run (I assume). It would also decrease the amount of same questions being asked multiple times.

I think there was also talk about the key-fragments not being tradable. I had hoped, that we finally get a run in which we can use the power of our fully geared lategame 115+ chars. It would be a shame if these accounts get "restricted" again, by making it unprofitable to farm the key-fragments with them in the first place.

I hope this run poses a good challange and I am looking forward to it.

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Since you are banned on Discord i'll clarify it for you, nobody said that you need key fragments and nobody said that you need to do hell and ice run, all i said is, that that was a potential idea and i also very clearly said that its not confirmed and that we are not sure yet about how to enter the run/where to get the ticket or if the tickets / items to craft the ticket will be tradeable or not, NOTHING about that is set in stone yet.

The IP Block exists for people like you who have dozens of Lv105 characters and will just drag all of them in there and receive 16 chests in a single run. If we were to allow that, you'd complain in 2 weeks that Nothing in that run is worth anything anymore.

If the run were to give a single chest we probably wouldn't need the IP Block anymore.

As for Ares - Every chest needs drops that are less rewarding, in this case, Acc+5 and Helmets+5. You cant have chests that ONLY give good stuff.

Dropping Mythic stones would be a bit too much aswell, then a mythic superclass will be achieveable within a week of the runs release.

They will be relatively easy to achieve eitherway considering how many Legendary DSS are farmable nowadays.

Quote from Luxuria

i think when staff said "ip blocked" it means by the mac of the pcs/laptops and not about the internet ip. Also, all computes have different mac ip so u will able to do the run with ur wife/gf/bf/lover/dad/mom/sis/cousin/etc

When i say IP, i mean IP and not Mac Adress.

We used the same method in the past already.

Its unfortunate for you and your father DonSaudi but such measurements have to be taken in order to prevent abuse.

Quote from Hiumi

can one player put all rings or one player can put only one ring?

You can put all rings yourself.

The run is going to be IP blocked since every member of the party gains a reward, giving everyone access to just join it with 8 accounts would be a bad idea.

We tried to balance it in a way that makes it near impossible or atleast very hard to solo the run as everything has quite a lot of HP.

Do i really have to clean up every thread because you guys can't act your age for even 5 Minutes for once?

I already had to bann you from the Discord (yet again) because you do not understand your boundaries, Yuni, don't continue with exactly the same behaviour here in the Forum.

This goes to everyone though, quit those needless provocations and take BBazzy as an example, why is he able to do PvP without insulting, crying and provoking on every single thread but some of you others can't ?

Get it together, act your age.

While we always welcome when people Upload videos and share them with us, these needless provocations are really not what any of us need.

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